The Bread and Banter Podcast
Bread and Banter with Andrés Pardo and Michael Awurumibe is where Christianity and real life meet. Honest stories, hard questions, and plenty of laughs.
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4 days ago
4 days ago
1 hr 38 min
In this episode, we sit down with Leo Paris, a Reformed pastor, to talk predestination, limited atonement, and whether a Calvinist can honestly tell a stranger that Jesus wants them. We get into everything from why Bryce Crawford says Calvinism ruined his evangelism to the all-caps emails pastors get every single week. Enjoy!
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Meet Leo Paris
2:59 How Bread and Banter Got Its Name
5:18 What Is Reformed Theology?
8:29 So What Is Calvinism?
11:06 Why This Doctrine Is Worth Fighting Over
20:40 Do Calvinists Believe In Free Will?
23:50 TULIP, Line By Line
28:16 Jesus Didn’t Die For Everyone
32:02 Can You Tell Someone Christ Died For You?
39:41 Why Nobody Chooses God On Their Own
44:18 Can A Christian Lose Their Salvation?
52:17 Did God Plan The Fall?
1:03:26 Does God Create People For Hell?
1:10:34 Does God Love The People He Didn’t Choose?
1:15:43 Why Bryce Crawford Isn’t A Calvinist
1:25:16 Allowing Evil vs Ordaining It
1:31:07 A Word For Parents Of Unbelieving Kids
1:35:30 The Angry Emails Pastors Get
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Oct 13, 2026
Oct 13, 2026
58 min
In this episode, we sit down with Students for Life spokesperson Lydia Taylor Davis to talk how the sexual revolution hijacked feminism, why she says pro-life has always been pro-woman, and whether men should have a say at all. We get into everything from the first feminists being pro-life to getting kicked out of the women's march. Enjoy!
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Meet Lydia Taylor Davis
3:29 How Lydia Went From Pro-Choice to Pro-Life
5:46 Why This Job Requires a Bulletproof Vest
10:18 Babies Born Alive and Left to Die
12:26 What Abortion Actually Does to a Baby
17:12 The Best Pro-Choice Argument Lydia Has Ever Heard
21:45 Should Men Get a Say in This?
24:52 Who Profits When a Woman Walks Into Planned Parenthood
27:25 Planned Parenthood's Racist Founder
32:22 How Christians Should Talk About Abortion
35:53 Lydia's Case Against Birth Control
39:57 Why Pro-Life Is Pro-Woman
42:37 The First Feminists Were Pro-Life
48:24 Answering Pro-Choicers' Hardest Objections
57:17 A Message to Anyone Considering Abortion
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Oct 1, 2026
Oct 1, 2026
2 hr 3 min
In this episode, we sit down with former transgender witch Xavier Saunders to talk how he came to Christ, why he believes transitioning is a form of witchcraft, and how Christians should actually talk to the LGBTQ community. We get into everything from whether Halloween is demonic to why he still dresses like that. Enjoy!
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Meet Xavier Saunders
2:32 Attracted to the Same Sex in Elementary School
19:03 How Much of the LGBTQ Community Is Driven by Trauma?
23:53 The Double Life He Hid From His Family
26:42 How Should Christians Talk to Gay People?
30:12 Why the LGBTQ Community Sees Christians as the Antichrist
33:09 How Buddhism Led Xavier to Witchcraft
43:17 The Curse He Put on His Coworker
48:49 Is Transitioning a Form of Witchcraft?
1:03:28 Did Jay Z Slip an Anti Christian Line Into Empire State of Mind?
1:05:36 How to Know If You've Been Cursed
1:20:49 The Church Elder Who Treated Him Like a Young Man
1:29:49 Giving His Life to Jesus in an Old Honda Van
1:38:22 Does Same Sex Attraction Go Away After Jesus?
1:44:56 Why Should an LGBTQ Person Consider Jesus?
1:50:59 Is Halloween Demonic?
1:52:48 Why Does Xavier Still Dress Like That?
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Sep 15, 2026
Sep 15, 2026
1 hr 7 min
In this episode, we sit down with legendary campus apologists Cliffe and Stuart Knechtle to talk what it would actually take for skeptics like Alex O'Connor to believe, the Bible's hardest passages, and 500 years of Christians fighting other Christians. We get into everything from the Eucharist debate that almost got them kicked out of MIT to the real story behind the pose you've seen everywhere online. Enjoy!
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Opening Prayer & Ministry Origin Story3:03 How Doubt Has Changed Since 19805:25 Do Babies Who Die at Birth Go to Heaven?7:29 Does Where You're Born Disprove Christianity?11:10 Why People Really Deconstruct16:24 What to Tell Someone Who Says the God Question Just Doesn't Matter23:23 Alex O'Connor’s Toughest Objection To Christianity27:46 What Would It Take For Alex to Believe?29:10 Is the God of the Old Testament Different Than the God of the New Testament?34:51 Why Stuart Changed His View on the Eucharist39:46 Why Cliffe Refuses to Fight About Catholic vs. Protestant43:45 300,000 Martyrs and What Christians Actually Agree On49:33 Men's Modesty and the Cory Asbury Controversy53:16 The Single Best Argument for God56:06 The Real Story Behind the Viral Gospel Stance1:01:11 The Time Cliffe Almost Got Slapped1:02:56 The Craziest Campus Question & Close
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Sep 1, 2026
Sep 1, 2026
2 hr 12 min
In this episode, we sit down with Father Jonathan Ivanoff, an Orthodox priest, to talk about church history, icon veneration, and whether Protestants and Catholics are actually saved. We get into everything from the Great Schism and the sacking of Constantinople to why 18,000 people just converted to Orthodoxy and whether a beard is a requirement for holiness. Enjoy!
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro / Beards and the Orthodox Cross
3:36 Opening Prayer
4:43 Meet Father Jonathan Ivanoff
5:25 What Is Orthodox Christianity?
7:27 How Someone Becomes Orthodox
10:22 His Conversion Story
17:32 Book Recommendations
18:19 Where Orthodox and Protestants Agree
20:27 The Real Issue: Authority and the Great Schism
22:09 The Sacking of Constantinople
26:06 The Reformation and Historic Continuity
29:04 18,000 Converts In One Week
31:48 The “Orthobro” Debate
34:52 Is Protestantism Too Feminine?
39:35 Greek, Russian, Serbian — Same Church?
43:03 Is Orthodoxy the One True Church?
46:03 Are Catholics and Protestants Even Christian?
48:58 Will Protestants Go to Heaven?
53:33 What Is Theosis?
1:03:21 What the Orthodox Church Got Wrong
1:06:54 The Gavin Ortlund Question
1:26:31 “Where Are Your Saints?”
1:38:37 Are Icons Idols?
1:45:00 Is Icon Veneration Required?
1:50:14 What Anathema Actually Means
1:56:36 What Is the Liturgy?
2:04:07 Why Doesn’t Orthodoxy Evangelize More?
2:07:12 Closing Questions
2:11:13 Outro
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Aug 18, 2026
Aug 18, 2026
1 hr 30 min
In this episode, we sit down with software engineer Will Johannesen to talk about whether AI is dangerous, whether it could ever become conscious, and where Christians should draw the line. We get into everything from Silicon Valley and the Tower of Babel to state-sponsored dairy cover-ups and why white people love board games. Enjoy.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro
1:55 AI: Antichrist or Revolution?
2:37 Meet Will Johannesen
6:10 What Is AI Actually Doing?
8:21 Will AI Replace Software Engineers?
11:41 Is AI Making Us Stop Thinking?
17:14 Should Christians Be Afraid of AI?
19:53 Silicon Valley’s God Problem
23:53 What Makes Humans Different From AI?
26:37 Could AI Ever Become Conscious?
30:38 The Hidden Cost of AI
36:53 AI, Eden, and the Tower of Babel
38:02 Should Christians Use AI Spiritually?
41:54 Should Pastors Use AI to Write Sermons?
44:02 Where Should Christians Draw the Line?
46:02 AI, Scripture, and the Holy Spirit
49:26 AI Relationships and Human Isolation
56:04 AI Surveillance and Brave New World
1:00:34 AI, Personalization, and Pleasure
1:02:27 The People Building Our AI Future
1:04:50 God’s Sovereignty Over Technology
1:06:21 Using AI for God’s Glory
1:11:36 When AI Helps vs. Dehumanizes
1:15:05 Is AI Connected to the Antichrist?
1:16:28 Will’s Biggest Warning About AI
1:18:57 What Excites Will About AI
1:21:21 Final Questions
1:21:56 Sometimes the Old Things Are Better
1:23:01 Will’s Dream
1:23:38 The Great Board Game Debate
1:28:34 State-sponsored dairy cover-ups?
1:30:48 Outro
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Aug 4, 2026
Aug 4, 2026
1 hr 28 min
In this episode, we sit down with Austin Groft to talk Christian content, campus ministry, and bringing the gospel into universities. We get into everything from street interviews and miracle conversions to Bible Bathroom trivia and NBA haircuts. Enjoy.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro
2:46 Who Is Austin Groft?
3:36 Basketball Today and Learning Virality
7:44 How Austin Came to Christ
12:17 Pancreatitis, Party Culture, and a Wake-Up Call
14:26 The Night Austin Surrendered to Jesus
16:41 Learning to Share His Faith
20:16 Sharing Jesus With College Students
27:05 Why College Students Are Spiritually Hungry
30:40 Carrying the Burden of Evangelism
35:00 Prayer, Open Doors, and Rejoicing in Heaven
37:26 The Most Rewarding Moments in Ministry
40:21 Regret, Scars, and God Redeeming the Past
43:19 Turning Trivia Videos Toward Jesus
47:57 Jonathan Isaac and Austin’s First Christian Video
51:31 Leaving the Content Dream for Ministry
53:06 Craziest Street Interview Story
58:53 Toughest Street Interview Moments
1:00:38 Fear, Boldness, and Getting Rejected
1:02:04 How Austin Comes Up With Viral Ideas
1:07:16 Final Questions
1:08:01 Don’t Wait to Follow Jesus
1:10:12 Austin’s Dream
1:11:13 Is Jesus Coming Back Soon?
1:19:29 Bible Bathroom Trivia
1:28:20 Outro
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Jul 21, 2026
Jul 21, 2026
1 hr 33 min
In this episode, we sit down with Mikey Roman to talk about his story, biblical sexuality, and following Jesus when your desires don’t line up with Scripture. We get into everything from being married with kids after a homosexual lifestyle to progressive Christian objections and the meaning of love. Enjoy.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Preview1:04 Opening Banter6:01 Opening Prayer7:22 Why We’re Talking About Same-Sex Attraction9:22 Mikey’s Story12:43 Coming Out and Family Response13:24 Getting Saved Before Changing His Sexuality15:26 “Did God Make Me This Way?”15:53 Pornography, Comparison, and the Roots of Desire19:24 Can Someone Be Born Gay?22:18 What Happened to His Desires After Conversion?27:02 Community, Isolation, and Fighting Sin30:03 Can You Be Gay and Christian?34:44 “God Made Me This Way”36:57 Is Homosexuality Actually a Sin?39:58 Leviticus, Shellfish, and Old Testament Law44:41 Did Jesus Ever Talk About Homosexuality?46:12 1 Corinthians, Greek Words, and Mistranslations50:46 If Two People Love Each Other, What’s the Problem?55:04 What Happens When You Remove God From the Equation?1:00:34 Is This the Next Slavery Debate?1:04:54 “Love Is Love” vs Biblical Love1:09:34 How Christians Should Have These Conversations1:13:36 When Homosexuality Becomes Bigger Than the Gospel1:15:54 Advice for Christians With Same-Sex Attraction1:17:17 What If I Can’t Accept a God Who Doesn’t Affirm This?1:19:52 What Would You Say to Gay People Who Think Christians Hate Them?1:21:55 Is He Actually Satisfied Married to a Woman?1:25:20 How His Definition of Love Changed1:27:57 Clark Plumbing Segment1:29:12 Final Questions
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Jul 7, 2026
Jul 7, 2026
1 hr 57 min
In this episode, we sit down with Monsignor Michael Magee to talk Catholicism, Protestantism, and whether Protestants can be saved. We get into everything from Mary and the saints to purgatory, exorcisms, and why a priest might tell you to run from a tarot card reading. Enjoy.
CHAPTERS:
0:00 Opening
1:10 Exorcisms, Tarot Cards, and Spiritual Warfare
5:16 Opening Prayer
5:41 Meeting Monsignor Michael McGee
6:47 Why a Methodist Became a Catholic Priest
11:16 What Catholics and Protestants Actually Agree On
14:52 What Protestants Get Wrong About Catholicism
20:04 The Eucharist: Catholicism’s Biggest Difference
24:58 Is Communion Symbolic? Transubstantiation and the Mass
31:00 Is the Mass Re-Sacrificing Jesus?
33:23 Can Protestants Be Saved?
45:08 Spiritual Communion and the Communion of Saints
48:47 What Is Purgatory?
59:58 Scripture, Tradition, and Church Authority
1:03:46 Why Andrés Didn’t Become Catholic
1:17:37 Do Catholics Worship Mary?
1:21:06 Was Mary Sinless? Romans 3:23
1:32:45 Is Praying to Saints Biblical?
1:42:09 Do Muslims Worship the Same God?
1:48:38 Cultural Catholicism and a Personal Relationship with Jesus
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Jun 23, 2026
Jun 23, 2026
1 hr 29 min
In this episode, we sit down with Micah Thornton to talk about The Barn, Gen Z revival, and what young believers need to be careful of. We get into everything from ministry and spiritual accountability to Frontier Airlines trauma and Puerto Rican geography. Enjoy!
CHAPTERS:0:00 Intro / Banter4:34 Opening Prayer and Meeting Micah8:31 Micah’s Story: Growing Up in the Church10:28 When Faith Became Personal14:45 The Unexpected Start of The Barn19:29 Why the First Night Felt Spiritually Heavy23:01 The Night 8 People Gave Their Lives to Jesus26:55 Ministry, Influence, and the Danger of Chasing Numbers35:05 Can Young Christians Lead Before They Feel Ready?40:26 Accountability, Doctrine, and Young Preachers43:42 What’s Next for The Barn?47:00 What Actually Happens at The Barn?54:30 Can Christian Events Replace the Local Church?59:05 Young Adult Ministry, Dating, and Keeping the Right Focus1:02:32 Worship, Emotion, and Keeping Jesus at the Center1:06:18 What Gen Z Christians Need to Be Careful Of1:17:48 Frontier Airlines, Puerto Rico, and a Flight Gone Wrong1:22:38 The Prank That Nearly Ended Micah1:28:20 Outro
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