The Bread and Banter Podcast

Bread and Banter with Andrés Pardo and Michael Awurumibe is where Christianity and real life meet. Honest stories, hard questions, and plenty of laughs.

Episodes

Sep 1, 2026

2 hr 12 min

In this episode, we sit down with Father Jonathan Ivanoff, an Orthodox priest, to talk about church history, icon veneration, and whether Protestants and Catholics are actually saved. We get into everything from the Great Schism and the sacking of Constantinople to why 18,000 people just converted to Orthodoxy and whether a beard is a requirement for holiness. Enjoy!
 
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro / Beards and the Orthodox Cross
3:36 Opening Prayer
4:43 Meet Father Jonathan Ivanoff
5:25 What Is Orthodox Christianity?
7:27 How Someone Becomes Orthodox
10:22 His Conversion Story
17:32 Book Recommendations
18:19 Where Orthodox and Protestants Agree
20:27 The Real Issue: Authority and the Great Schism
22:09 The Sacking of Constantinople
26:06 The Reformation and Historic Continuity
29:04 18,000 Converts In One Week
31:48 The “Orthobro” Debate
34:52 Is Protestantism Too Feminine?
39:35 Greek, Russian, Serbian — Same Church?
43:03 Is Orthodoxy the One True Church?
46:03 Are Catholics and Protestants Even Christian?
48:58 Will Protestants Go to Heaven?
53:33 What Is Theosis?
1:03:21 What the Orthodox Church Got Wrong
1:06:54 The Gavin Ortlund Question
1:26:31 “Where Are Your Saints?”
1:38:37 Are Icons Idols?
1:45:00 Is Icon Veneration Required?
1:50:14 What Anathema Actually Means
1:56:36 What Is the Liturgy?
2:04:07 Why Doesn’t Orthodoxy Evangelize More?
2:07:12 Closing Questions
2:11:13 Outro
 
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Sep 1, 2026

2 hr 12 min

Aug 18, 2026

1 hr 30 min

In this episode, we sit down with software engineer Will Johannesen to talk about whether AI is dangerous, whether it could ever become conscious, and where Christians should draw the line. We get into everything from Silicon Valley and the Tower of Babel to state-sponsored dairy cover-ups and why white people love board games. Enjoy.
 
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro
1:55 AI: Antichrist or Revolution?
2:37 Meet Will Johannesen
6:10 What Is AI Actually Doing?
8:21 Will AI Replace Software Engineers?
11:41 Is AI Making Us Stop Thinking?
17:14 Should Christians Be Afraid of AI?
19:53 Silicon Valley’s God Problem
23:53 What Makes Humans Different From AI?
26:37 Could AI Ever Become Conscious?
30:38 The Hidden Cost of AI
36:53 AI, Eden, and the Tower of Babel
38:02 Should Christians Use AI Spiritually?
41:54 Should Pastors Use AI to Write Sermons?
44:02 Where Should Christians Draw the Line?
46:02 AI, Scripture, and the Holy Spirit
49:26 AI Relationships and Human Isolation
56:04 AI Surveillance and Brave New World
1:00:34 AI, Personalization, and Pleasure
1:02:27 The People Building Our AI Future
1:04:50 God’s Sovereignty Over Technology
1:06:21 Using AI for God’s Glory
1:11:36 When AI Helps vs. Dehumanizes
1:15:05 Is AI Connected to the Antichrist?
1:16:28 Will’s Biggest Warning About AI
1:18:57 What Excites Will About AI
1:21:21 Final Questions
1:21:56 Sometimes the Old Things Are Better
1:23:01 Will’s Dream
1:23:38 The Great Board Game Debate
1:28:34 State-sponsored dairy cover-ups?
1:30:48 Outro
 
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Aug 18, 2026

1 hr 30 min

Aug 4, 2026

1 hr 28 min

In this episode, we sit down with Austin Groft to talk Christian content, campus ministry, and bringing the gospel into universities. We get into everything from street interviews and miracle conversions to Bible Bathroom trivia and NBA haircuts. Enjoy.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro
2:46 Who Is Austin Groft?
3:36 Basketball Today and Learning Virality
7:44 How Austin Came to Christ
12:17 Pancreatitis, Party Culture, and a Wake-Up Call
14:26 The Night Austin Surrendered to Jesus
16:41 Learning to Share His Faith
20:16 Sharing Jesus With College Students
27:05 Why College Students Are Spiritually Hungry
30:40 Carrying the Burden of Evangelism
35:00 Prayer, Open Doors, and Rejoicing in Heaven
37:26 The Most Rewarding Moments in Ministry
40:21 Regret, Scars, and God Redeeming the Past
43:19 Turning Trivia Videos Toward Jesus
47:57 Jonathan Isaac and Austin’s First Christian Video
51:31 Leaving the Content Dream for Ministry
53:06 Craziest Street Interview Story
58:53 Toughest Street Interview Moments
1:00:38 Fear, Boldness, and Getting Rejected
1:02:04 How Austin Comes Up With Viral Ideas
1:07:16 Final Questions
1:08:01 Don’t Wait to Follow Jesus
1:10:12 Austin’s Dream
1:11:13 Is Jesus Coming Back Soon?
1:19:29 Bible Bathroom Trivia
1:28:20 Outro
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Aug 4, 2026

1 hr 28 min

Jul 21, 2026

1 hr 33 min

In this episode, we sit down with Mikey Roman to talk about his story, biblical sexuality, and following Jesus when your desires don’t line up with Scripture. We get into everything from being married with kids after a homosexual lifestyle to progressive Christian objections and the meaning of love. Enjoy.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Preview1:04 Opening Banter6:01 Opening Prayer7:22 Why We’re Talking About Same-Sex Attraction9:22 Mikey’s Story12:43 Coming Out and Family Response13:24 Getting Saved Before Changing His Sexuality15:26 “Did God Make Me This Way?”15:53 Pornography, Comparison, and the Roots of Desire19:24 Can Someone Be Born Gay?22:18 What Happened to His Desires After Conversion?27:02 Community, Isolation, and Fighting Sin30:03 Can You Be Gay and Christian?34:44 “God Made Me This Way”36:57 Is Homosexuality Actually a Sin?39:58 Leviticus, Shellfish, and Old Testament Law44:41 Did Jesus Ever Talk About Homosexuality?46:12 1 Corinthians, Greek Words, and Mistranslations50:46 If Two People Love Each Other, What’s the Problem?55:04 What Happens When You Remove God From the Equation?1:00:34 Is This the Next Slavery Debate?1:04:54 “Love Is Love” vs Biblical Love1:09:34 How Christians Should Have These Conversations1:13:36 When Homosexuality Becomes Bigger Than the Gospel1:15:54 Advice for Christians With Same-Sex Attraction1:17:17 What If I Can’t Accept a God Who Doesn’t Affirm This?1:19:52 What Would You Say to Gay People Who Think Christians Hate Them?1:21:55 Is He Actually Satisfied Married to a Woman?1:25:20 How His Definition of Love Changed1:27:57 Clark Plumbing Segment1:29:12 Final Questions
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Jul 21, 2026

1 hr 33 min

Jul 7, 2026

1 hr 57 min

In this episode, we sit down with Monsignor Michael Magee to talk Catholicism, Protestantism, and whether Protestants can be saved. We get into everything from Mary and the saints to purgatory, exorcisms, and why a priest might tell you to run from a tarot card reading. Enjoy.
CHAPTERS:
0:00 Opening
1:10 Exorcisms, Tarot Cards, and Spiritual Warfare
5:16 Opening Prayer
5:41 Meeting Monsignor Michael McGee
6:47 Why a Methodist Became a Catholic Priest
11:16 What Catholics and Protestants Actually Agree On
14:52 What Protestants Get Wrong About Catholicism
20:04 The Eucharist: Catholicism’s Biggest Difference
24:58 Is Communion Symbolic? Transubstantiation and the Mass
31:00 Is the Mass Re-Sacrificing Jesus?
33:23 Can Protestants Be Saved?
45:08 Spiritual Communion and the Communion of Saints
48:47 What Is Purgatory?
59:58 Scripture, Tradition, and Church Authority
1:03:46 Why Andrés Didn’t Become Catholic
1:17:37 Do Catholics Worship Mary?
1:21:06 Was Mary Sinless? Romans 3:23
1:32:45 Is Praying to Saints Biblical?
1:42:09 Do Muslims Worship the Same God?
1:48:38 Cultural Catholicism and a Personal Relationship with Jesus
 
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Jul 7, 2026

1 hr 57 min

Jun 23, 2026

1 hr 29 min

In this episode, we sit down with Micah Thornton to talk about The Barn, Gen Z revival, and what young believers need to be careful of. We get into everything from ministry and spiritual accountability to Frontier Airlines trauma and Puerto Rican geography. Enjoy!
 
CHAPTERS:0:00 Intro / Banter4:34 Opening Prayer and Meeting Micah8:31 Micah’s Story: Growing Up in the Church10:28 When Faith Became Personal14:45 The Unexpected Start of The Barn19:29 Why the First Night Felt Spiritually Heavy23:01 The Night 8 People Gave Their Lives to Jesus26:55 Ministry, Influence, and the Danger of Chasing Numbers35:05 Can Young Christians Lead Before They Feel Ready?40:26 Accountability, Doctrine, and Young Preachers43:42 What’s Next for The Barn?47:00 What Actually Happens at The Barn?54:30 Can Christian Events Replace the Local Church?59:05 Young Adult Ministry, Dating, and Keeping the Right Focus1:02:32 Worship, Emotion, and Keeping Jesus at the Center1:06:18 What Gen Z Christians Need to Be Careful Of1:17:48 Frontier Airlines, Puerto Rico, and a Flight Gone Wrong1:22:38 The Prank That Nearly Ended Micah1:28:20 Outro
 
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Jun 23, 2026

1 hr 29 min

Jun 9, 2026

1 hr 49 min

In this episode, we sit down with Phil VanderWeide to talk spiritual warfare, demonic oppression, and what Christians get wrong about Satan. We get into everything from possession and horror movies to deer genders and teleportation in the Bible. Enjoy!
 
CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro / Banter
15:03 What Is Spiritual Warfare?
20:24 What’s Really Happening Behind the Scenes?
23:50 Satan Is Not God’s Rival
28:51 Can Satan Be Everywhere at Once?
34:20 Philip Teleported? The Bible Gets Weird
41:41 Oppression vs Possession
44:46 Why Would God Allow Spiritual Warfare?
50:59 How to Know If Someone Is Spiritually Oppressed
58:00 Exorcisms, Deliverance, and What Protestants Believe
1:02:19 It’s in Our Phones: The Spiritual Warfare We Miss
1:10:09 The Temptation Patterns Satan Keeps Reusing
1:14:08 Horror Movies, Death, and Opening Spiritual Doors
1:31:55 Mental Health or Demonic Oppression?
1:41:55 What to Do If You Feel Spiritually Attacked
 
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Jun 9, 2026

1 hr 49 min

May 26, 2026

1 hr 34 min

In this episode, we sit down with Asher Donahue to talk about how Christians should approach skeptics, the problem of evil, and what it actually means to be born again. We get into everything from church hurt and LGBTQ conversations to awkward moments with strangers and reading on the treadmill. Enjoy!
 
CHAPTERS:
0:53 Intro / Meet Asher
3:15 How Should Christians Approach Skeptics?
10:45 What If Someone Is Actively Anti-Christian?
12:58 How Do You Talk to Non-Believing Family Members?
15:34 What If They Say They’re Christian but There’s No Fruit?
17:30 How Do You Talk to Someone With Church Hurt?
20:10 How Do You Talk to the LGBTQ Community? 24:42 What About Christians Who Affirm LGBTQ Theology?
31:26 How Should Christians Talk About Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice?
36:04 If God Is Good, Why Is There Evil?
43:39 How Do You Respond to Suicide?
46:19 How Could a Good God Send People to Hell?
48:47 How Does God Decide Who Gets Saved?
50:01 Does Geography Predict Belief? 55:13 What Does “Born Again” Actually Mean?
57:15 How Do You Explain Sin to a Skeptic?
58:43 When Should You End the Conversation?
1:00:10 Look for the “No’s”
1:05:35 Does Science Explain Everything?
1:16:16 What’s the Best Argument for God’s Existence?
1:19:54 Banter Begins / The Art of Locking In
1:26:45 Awkward Moments With Strangers
1:31:36 Reading on the Treadmill / Closing
 
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May 26, 2026

1 hr 34 min

May 12, 2026

2 hr 17 min

In this episode, we sit down with Zach Foust to talk Christian Zionism, the Scofield Reference Bible, and whether Christians actually have to support Israel. We get into everything from church history and evangelical politics to Delaware chickens and Joe Biden falling off his bike. Enjoy.
 
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro/Disclaimer
03:19 Zach Foust’s Rise From Real Estate to Asking Questions
07:28 The Moment Zach Started Questioning the System
13:07 How Zach Found His Way Back to Christ
16:10 Following the Money to Israel
19:08 Why Criticizing Israel Isn’t Antisemitism
19:53 Greater Israel and the War No One Wants to Explain
25:38 Does the Bible Actually Say Christians Must Support Israel?
28:39 The Abraham Argument Christians Get Wrong
32:49 Dispensationalism and the End-Times Israel Obsession
35:09 Where Did “Judeo-Christian Values” Come From?
45:06 What the Historic Church Actually Believed About Israel
48:15 How Christianity Got Hijacked for Politics
50:40 The Scofield Bible Footnotes That Changed Everything
55:21 The 1967 Bible Revision Most Christians Never Heard About
57:33 Why So Many Evangelicals Think Israel Is Prophecy
58:20 John Hagee and the Theology Behind the Movement
1:02:17 The Pro-Life Question Christians Avoid
1:21:17 Why Israel Needs American Evangelicals
1:25:01 Why Don’t Christians Treat Israel Like a Mission Field?
1:30:50 What Christian Support for Israel Is Actually Defending
1:40:55 The Christians in the Holy Land Nobody Talks About
1:46:32 Is Israel Really Just Defending Itself?
1:48:58 The “Only Democracy” Argument
1:55:30 What Should Christians Do With This Information?
2:02:43 Scripture or Cap?
2:08:15 Scrapple, Delaware, and Biden’s Bike
 

May 12, 2026

2 hr 17 min

Apr 28, 2026

1 hr 56 min

In this episode, we sit down with author and speaker Shelby Abbott to talk Christian dating, being unequally yoked, and what people get most wrong about relationships. We get into everything from standards and lust to soulmates and unorthodox rizz. Enjoy.
CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro / meet Shelby Abbott
6:24 What most Christians get wrong about dating
8:59 Are your standards too high?
13:17 How to know if you’re settling
16:44 Should Christians date non-believers?
20:55 What “unequally yoked” actually means
23:06 Already dating a nonbeliever? Should you break up?
28:52 What does “biblical dating” actually look like?
38:39 How to stop idolizing your partner 51:35 How far is too far?
55:20 Should you date someone you’re not attracted to?
59:29 If you struggle with lust, should you wait to date?
1:12:09 When do you know it’s time to marry or move on?
1:13:12 Are soulmates real?
1:19:23 Is compatibility actually real?
1:20:27 Arranged marriage?
1:22:50 Does the Bible endorse polygamy?
1:24:46 Did Paul say singleness is better than marriage?
1:30:23 Dating advice for post-college Christians
1:35:36 How to deal with loneliness
1:41:05 Banter begins / secondhand embarrassment
1:45:25 “Gay energy”
1:50:13 Worst Christian rizz / wild Cru story
1:55:30 Closing
 
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Apr 28, 2026

1 hr 56 min

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