The Bread and Banter Podcast
Bread and Banter with Andrés Pardo and Michael Awurumibe is where Christianity and real life meet. Honest stories, hard questions, and plenty of laughs.
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Apr 14, 2026
Apr 14, 2026
2 hr 3 min
In this episode, we sit down with Jack Smith to talk church history, the Protestant/Catholic divide, and why so many young Christians are suddenly interested in Rome and Orthodoxy. We get into everything from Marian dogmas and Sola Scriptura to Venmo etiquette and clapping when planes land.
CHECK OUT JACK ON SUBSTACK ► / https://substack.com/@theprecisetheologians?r=3v81q1&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=stories&shareImageVariant=light
CHAPTERS:
0:00 Cold open / church history teaser
1:30 Intro / meet Jack
12:59 “To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant”
18:10 Why is it important to learn about church history?
23:53 The history, importance, and different views of the Eucharist
33:52 Eucharistic miracles
38:13 Marian apparitions
44:57 Assumption of Mary
46:20 The main reason Jack is not Catholic
47:27 Why remain Protestant over Catholicism?
52:42 How do Catholics view salvation?
1:00:48 Do Catholics think Protestants are going to heaven?
1:05:22 Can Catholics / Orthodox go to heaven?
1:08:53 Sola Scriptura
1:17:00 Do Protestants just follow their own interpretation of Scripture?
1:18:54 Why do Catholics have more books in the Bible?
1:23:42 Did Martin Luther take books out of the Bible?
1:25:13 How did we get the Bible?
1:30:17 Are Christians really just following Paul?
1:34:39 Answering questions from Catholic audience members
1:46:01 UNFATHOMABLE Venmo Requests (banter begins)
1:49:24 Clapping when planes land
1:51:29 Andrés’ LUDACRIS DoorDash story
1:55:19 Michael’s favorite basketball ball handling drill
1:57:07 Typical British snarky comments
1:59:23 Boys take on “cultural commentary”
2:02:40 Closing / shameless plugs
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Mar 31, 2026
Mar 31, 2026
1 hr 35 min
In this episode, we sit down with Tanner Maddocks, founder of Agape Energy, to talk faith, building a brand in real time, and what happens when a “Christian energy drink” goes viral before it even exists. We get into car crashes, controversy, and barking at significant others in public. Enjoy.
CHAPTERS:
0:01:06 Meet Tanner and why Agape exists 0:04:09 Why “traditional values” are coming back 0:11:05 Tanner vs college professors0:20:05 How faith shaped the brand0:35:03 Tanner’s Bible routine 0:36:00 When being a Christian gets you labeled fast0:48:11 Are we “selling Jesus?” 0:50:33 The “Christian energy drink” controversy 0:59:00 What’s actually in the drink 1:03:03 Building the formula from scratch 1:08:00 How this drink goes from idea to shelves1:13:03 The car crash that changed everything1:17:00 CRAZY “coincidence” 1:18:47 Villanova stories (banter begins) 1:33:24 PDA gone too far 1:34:00 Final banter and outro

Mar 17, 2026
Mar 17, 2026
1 hr 23 min
In this episode of Bread and Banter, we sit down with a pastor to ask him Christianity's toughest questions and doubts. We cover everything from the Protestant/Catholic divide and slavery in the Bible to dating app shenanigans and rage-baiting your doctor. ENJOY!
EMAIL JT YOUR DOUBTS/QUESTIONS: jtorrence@covfel.org
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CHAPTERS
00:00:00 – Intro + meet Jared (JT)
00:07:22 – JT is basically a professional UFC fighter...
00:11:12 – Opening prayer before the questions
00:13:08 – Why are there so many denominations?
00:20:18 – Why stay Protestant in 2026?
00:25:58 – How does hell fit a loving God?
00:32:17 – What about people who never hear about Jesus?
00:44:51 – If geography predicts belief, why Christianity?
00:52:24 – Does the Bible endorse slavery?
01:00:14 – Can you be moral without God?
01:01:57 – What is the strongest argument for God?
01:04:58 – Banter begins...dating apps GONE WRONG 01:11:05 – Two Pentecostal pastors on a plane
01:13:14 – Doctor said don’t call me 'bro'
01:22:51 – Hit up JT with your doubts and questions!

Mar 2, 2026
Mar 2, 2026
1 hr 23 min
Welcome to Bread and Banter! In our first-ever episode, we share our testimonies, dive deep into lust and how to overcome it, and enjoy some time bonding over our immigrant parents and their “friendly racism.”
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:41 – What Bread and Banter is about
00:02:13 – How we met and why it clicked
00:04:33 – Andrés’ testimony from cult to Christ
00:20:44 – Michael’s testimony faith through loss
00:36:43 – Lust as validation and surrendering it
00:44:29 – Porn rewires your brain and your soul
00:52:22 – Beating lust when you’re bored and alone
01:06:26 – Banter hotline kicks off
01:07:35 – Immigrant dads and accidental racism
01:10:19 – The wild purity group confession
01:14:56 – Spirit Airlines behavior you can’t unsee
01:22:45 – Closing thoughts and send your stories
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